Andrew Chapman says:
“I have enormous sympathy with HRH Prince Andrew in his need to prove himself innocent of the accusation being made against him. In the UK we have a legal structure and tradition of evidence being required, and, until that evidence is produced, being “presumed innocent until proven guilty” in a proper court of law. That principle dates back to Magna Carta, and was further defined and confirmed by Garrow three hundred years ago. It has been a watchword in this country ever since – until, that is, we joined the European Union, where the maxim is “guilty until you prove yourself innocent”, a Napoleonic principle that is unfair to the innocent and a cause of so much injustice.
Think about it for a moment. How do you start guarding your back against any spurious charge that anyone who stands to make a fast buck with a newspaper can persuade them to publish, or you’re imprisoned on holiday by some EU village magistrate who has the power to arrest you as a foreigner without producing a shred of evidence in order to placate the anger of the locals over something that has gone on in his patch.
The dangers inherent in continuing our membership of the European Union make it absolutely fundamental to change our way of thinking, life and thought processes, to guard ourselves against such charges as Prince Andrew now faces – if we stay in the EU. No wonder the poor man is bewildered and stony faced. Personally, I wouldn’t have a clue where to start – other than drawing everyone’s attention to the need to leave the EU before it happens routinely to everyone in the UK.”
Source: East Devon UKIP Facebook page
EDA note: The British justice system “innocent until proved guilty” has not changed nor has the jury system and the scandal originated in, and was reported from, the United States.
East Devon Watch 
Its actually a bit more obscure even than that.
He is named in a civil court case against the US authorities who granted immunity to his (presumably former) friend without consulting the victims. So, Prince Andrew doesn’t even stand accused by the US authorities, only in a written deposition by an alleged victim who already has a reputation for being economical with the truth. As far as I know, there is no actual evidence gathered by the US authorities that even hints at any involvement by Prince Andrew, only this deposition. As far as I know the newspapers have reported only that he is named in these papers. They have not accused him either.
Now, I believe that the situation would be the same if the civil case had been brought in the UK against UK authorities or in (say) germany against German authorities. The court papers would be available to the newspapers who would report that he had been named in a deposition. TTIP, membership of the EU, the price of oil, Prince Andrew’s sign of the zodiac, whether there is an “R” in the month, and the shape of the tea leaves in my tea cup have no bearing on this at all.
So, it would appear that it is not just Nigel Farage whose logic is invisible, but other prospective MPs in his party too.
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P.S. And of course since he is not named in the civil case he has no right of formal reply – nor can he realistically sue for defamation as that will create even more bad publicity. The good news for PA is that the victim has also named a Harvard Law Professor who has stated that he will be suing her for defamation. So PA might get exonerated as a byproduct of this.
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Dear Blogmeister
I would be very grateful to issue a new year bulletin through your good offices confirming that on the infrequent occasions that I write in I always use my full name – and I am not, as I discover is widely assumed – the “Paul” corresponding here. Thank you.
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Our local UKIP man Andrew Chapman seems to be from the same mould as Farage. His assertion is just as daft as Farage’s explanation of being late through traffic jams caused by immigrants.
They do have a talent for making utterly unfounded allegations don’t they? Nor do they seem to learn from them, What next?
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He may only appear to be a slice now, but he has the makings of a complete fruitcake ….. wibble hatstand
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Doesn’t matter what the problem is, the cause is either:
a. Immigration; or
b. Membership of the EU.
Car carrier cargo ship starts to list and is run aground? It was a stampede of immigrants over to one side of the ship to take a look at The Needles as they passed.
Extreme weather? Its being part of Europe that is the cause, not climate change.
Earthquake in Northumberland? Caused by the extra weight of immigrants.
Oil prices falling, FTSE falling? Its EU regulations on fuel pricing and EU red-tape burden on businesses – nothing to do with supply and demand and economics.
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The writer says….”I wouldn’t have a a clue where to start”…..a fact only too evident from the rather confused article.
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The bit about an EU Village Magistrate is particularly surreal.
I worry about the number of people in East Devon who may vote for this imbecile (based on the posters that were around at the time of the EU elections, this is actually concerning).
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i went to hear this candidate at topsham hall last month. Swire neednt lose any sleep. It was a woeful performance
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