A retired auditor explains how councils can “push back” on auditors’ demands

“… In all of the instances I have dealt with, there have been at least two reasonable positions that could be taken, one of which involves less disruption to the draft accounts than proposed by the auditor. In such circumstances, you would expect the auditors to be finding themselves a comfortable seat on the fence, from where to take in the admirable views available on both sides. Not standing on one side throwing stones. …

… Threats of audit qualification are usually fairly empty. They rely on the auditor being able to summarise their case against the authority succinctly, definitively and with quantification in the audit report and on the matter in hand being truly material (ie, that it might influence a decision to be taken by a user of the accounts). Most of the firms will also require qualified audit reports to be approved by a senior technical panel, so they are not at the discretion of the individual auditor.

Many accountants will at this point settle for what they judge the easier option and make the changes demanded. But there can be greater advantage in pushing back, asking the auditors to:

explain why your approach is not acceptable, rather than just different from theirs

provide comprehensive technical support for any counterarguments they put
be clear that the issue might have a properly material impact.

Sometimes the view of the auditor will need to be accommodated. But on many occasions issues are resolved simply by persuading the auditor to appreciate the authority’s approach to an area where there is room for differences of opinion.

So, two key messages. Auditors: retain your independence by avoiding dogmatic demands and engaging directly with what the authority has done. Accountants: don’t believe that an argument is necessarily stronger because it comes with the promise of a clean audit opinion.”

http://www.room151.co.uk/blogs/stephen-sheen-troubles-with-the-auditor-maybe-its-not-you/

When is a question not a question? When you ask it of Theresa May!

Ian Blackford, the SNP Westminster Leader, said it all when he quipped: “I was under the impression that this was questions to the PM.”

At PMQs this week, Theresa May failed to answer almost every question that was put to her, which leaves one wondering why this theatrical spectacle is still continued.

Asked about the worry felt by the constituents of Oxford West and Abingdon about leaving the single market and how this would affect the local economy, Theresa May decided to accuse MP Layla Moran of providing misinformation to her constituents about Brexit. May claimed that the Tories are seeking a deal that “gives us access to the single market” – not something that has been announced as part of the Government’s confusing position on Brexit, but presumably that doesn’t matter.

When quizzed on the damning UN report detailing that the UK actively discriminates against disabled people through cuts, Theresa May claimed that “those who are most in need” are receiving help, and that the support they are providing has “actually increased”. Must all be in the UN’s imagination, then – not to mention the imaginations of disability charities, my esteemed colleague James Moore, and those processing Freedom of Information requests. The fact that the DWP was told to “discriminate” against claimants with mental health conditions is obviously part of May’s utopian plan to help out those in need.

On the next question, Theresa May refused to accept that a 1 per cent pay increase for police officers and prison officers, with 2.9 per cent inflation, was in fact a real terms pay cut. She went on to say that, actually, police officers had actually enjoyed a 32 per cent increase over the past seven years.

I’m sure it will come as a shock to many police officers on the beat that they’ve “never had it better”, particularly considering over 20,000 of their jobs have been slashed (as well as there being 7,000 fewer prison officers). She then failed to guarantee that there would be no further police and prison officer cuts. Transparency really isn’t one of May’s fortes.

Corbyn continued by asking what has happened to the average person’s bank account over the past seven years, which, to her due, she did answer. May detailed that the average person is £1,000 better off due to tax allowances. I’m sure many people will be sitting at home wondering if their extra grand has gotten lost in the post.

Getting a proper answer or some form of acknowledgement that there may be an issue for even one single person in the country during a period of protracted austerity and a skydiving pound has become a rarity for Theresa May. She seems to be under the impression that she is not accountable to the people in this country, and that she can continue to hide what the Government is doing behind rhetoric while the public sit at home and nod.

Criticism is justified on both sides of the benches when it comes to the lack of discussion on Brexit. One wonders if they think by not talking about it, we will forget that it’s happening. With talks being stalled for an extra week and two major votes through Parliament this week, you would think it would be worth mentioning.

Alas, only Layla Moran got a brief word in edgeways on the subject.

During the general election, it was widely publicised that Theresa May rarely engaged with a member of the public who wasn’t a paid-up member of the Conservatives – you’d think that perhaps, after all of that criticism, she’d have changed her tune. This is how Corbyn swiped many of her votes, after all. But it appears that the Prime Minister has simply retreated further into her shell, with her fingers firmly wedged in her ears.

If Theresa May does remain in her position until 2022, then we have an awful lot of answer-free PMQs to sit through until the next general election.”

http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-and-tech

It didn’t take long for the police union to call her a liar!

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/police-union-accuses-theresa-may-of-telling-a-downright-lie-about-pay-rise_uk_59b920bfe4b02da

Exmouth Fun Park WILL close – even though there is no developer for the site

A VOTE WILL BE HELD NOW ON THE MOTION TO GIVE THE FUN PARK THE SAME TERMS OF THE LEASE AS THE HARBOUR VIEW CAFE
KEY EVENT
For – 21
Against – 26
Abstain – 0

Notice of motion is not agreed – it is the end of the debate – the fun park will close.

For full summary of what residents and councillors said, see:

http://www.devonlive.com/news/devon-news/vote-no-confidence-east-devon-470930

Diviani no confidence vote defeated – Tories stand by their man, even though he ignored them in DCC health vote

THE MOTION OF NO CONFIDENCE FAILS KEY EVENT
For – 18
Against – 31
Abstain – 1
shouts of shame from the public

Diviani’s statement show in photographs in the article along with councillors comments

Mayor of Seaton said:

“The stance of the closure of the hospital beds is well-known in trying to get them saved. On April 1 at a meeting, Cllr Diviani attended a meeting and was vociferous in wanting the beds to remain open.

But I don’t know what evidence that he has seen that supports the closures, particularly about supporting the care at home model.

I don’t see evidence that rapid response is working 24 hours a day.

I was disappointed with how the DCC meeting was chaired, but I couldn’t listen to Cllr Diviani as his microphone was switched off for the whole meeting.

CCG still not provided any compelling evidence about the new model”

http://www.devonlive.com/news/devon-news/vote-no-confidence-east-devon-470930

STRATA (EDDC, Exeter, Teignbridge shared computer service) down

Owl says: that’s the drawback of shared IT services – one out all out! Have they tried turning it off and on again!

One for EDDC councillor and computer whizz Phil Twiss in charge of getting broadband to not-spots in East Devon. Now, it’s all not-spots.

now that’s going to cause a few problems…

East Devon one of three councils hit by major IT fault

East Devon District Council’s phone lines and website have gone offline after a major IT fault.

Engineers have been tasked to fix the problem.

Services offered by Teignbridge District Council and Exeter City Council have also been affected.

A spokesman for Teignbridge District Council said it was working to fix this the fault as soon as possible.

Exeter City Council said people may not be able to make online payments as a result of the network issues.

It is asking people who want to get in touch to do so through social media.”

http://www.exmouthjournal.co.uk/news/east-devon-one-of-three-councils-hit-by-major-it-fault-1-5192799

A response to Councillor Shaw’s response to Councillor Allen’s response to Diviani’s vote at DCC!

Comment post to Councillor Shaw’s post:

“If councillors like Mike Allen want to distance themselves from Paul Diviani and regain some respect from the electorate, the first step will be to vote against him at today’s council meeting.

Any councillor voting against the motion of no confidence, then they are aligning themselves with Diviani’s anti-democratic approach of ignoring the electorate, his own council, and other councils he was supposed to represent, and they are showing everyone that they are no better than he is.

And if Mike Allen was relying on Hugo Swi[r]ne and Neil Pari[s]ah to fix the NHS issues in East Devon he was backing the wrong horse.”

Independent councillor challenges Councillor Mike Allen’s letter on Tories and NHS

Independent East Devon Alliance councillor Martin Shaw (Seaton and Colyton) makes this observation on EDDC Tory councillor Mike Allen’s attempt to distance other EDDC and DCC councillors from Leader Diviani’s actions which led to the vote of no confidence meeting at EDDC tonight.

(Assemble Knowle 5.30 pm if you wish to make your presence felt for this meeting)

“It is not credible to say that Diviani acted alone – he may not have consulted other district councils, but remember that three of the East Devon Tories on Health Scrutiny (Randall Johnson and Richard Scott as well as Diviani) voted for ditching the hospital beds, with only Twiss against and Jeff Trail absent. Even at the time of the County Council elections in May, E Devon Conservatives advocated ‘bedless hospitals’, so Mike Allen’s story doesn’t add up. If they back Diviani tonight they will be consistent with their party’s betrayal of Honiton and Seaton.”

Letter referred to in post below and above:

Hernandez survives third ” no confidence” vote with a fourth on the horizon.

So, Hernandez survived the DCC no confidence vote.

Hardly surprising – for the DCC majority, better a poorly-performing Tory than – well, anyone else, because she’s THEIR Police and Crime Commissioner – for now.

All Councillor Croad could say on TV was that “by and large” and “generally-speaking” she is doing an OK job. Hardly a ringing endorsement.

But this is now the third no confidence vote she has been involved in and with a fourth on the horizon when Cornwall debates the same issue soon this is an issue that isn’t going to go away.

Is the County Council holding its fire for when (which seems more likely than if) we merge with Dorset. At which point we (or someone) will have to choose between her and a highly-decorated and well-thought-of former police officer!

More information here:

http://www.devonlive.com/news/devon-news/police-crime-commissioner-survives-third-470014

[Seaton] “Pensioners ‘with vendetta against open top bus’ accused of vandalism”

AT LAST more information – from a London newspaper! And one might question the logic of people buying homes in front of an existing coach park and then finding it a problem!

“A group of pensioners have been accused of launching a vendetta against an open-top bus service.

Derek Gawn, 64, believes his 1950s buses have been targeted by residents living in flats that overlook a pus park where they stop.

He said that drivers have faced abusive language and have had pictures taken of them by angry locals.

On one occasion he said wheel nuts were loosened on his buses while in the past he’s found his buses blocked in by their cars.

The final straw for Mr Gawn came when he believes someone set up fake Facebook accounts to give low reviews and to impersonate a councillor to complain about it.

Mr Gawn said the ‘whining and moaning’ objectors had caused him so much stress that he has decided to withdraw the popular service which has been used by 20,000 people this year.

He started up the venture three years ago to take passengers on a scenic tour of Beer, Colyton and Seaton in Devon and Lyme Regis and Charmouth in Dorset.

The main flash point has been the bus park on the seafront at Seaton next to the block of flats which was built in 2002.

Mr Gawn said: ‘The open top bus tour has been withdrawn due to hostility from a small minority of local residents towards our staff.

‘We have taken the decision after me and my staff have been subject to tirades from a few local residents in the Seaton and Colyton area.
‘Sadly a couple of residents of the flats have taken to shouting at the drivers for parking our buses in the bus park, as they don’t want them outside their flat.

‘There was a slight issue with the fact we run older vehicles which obviously pre-date emissions tests and when they start up on a cold morning they can be a little bit smokey but they’ve passed all their tests. All the engines were shut down once they were parked.

‘It has been elderly people in all cases. It is the same type of people who buy a house next a railway and then complain about trains, despite the railway having been there for over hundred years.

‘It isn’t for the bus drivers to be shouted at by residents and we no longer wish to subject our staff to such behavior from a small minority of locals.
‘We have experienced people deliberately parking their cars badly on the approach to our depot at Colyton Station in an attempt to make access difficult.

‘We had one resident taking pictures of the drivers arriving in their own private cars.

‘Recently we even had a bus tampered with at night. All the wheel nuts were loosened on one wheel, and the wheel nut indicators were all put back on to cover the damage. That’s dangerous and could kill people.’

Mr Gawn said that he was even confronted by a group of residents after he had loaned two double decker buses to be used as grandstands in the bus park for a recent carnival.

He said: ‘We had a deputation of about five people which did upset me. We were doing it for charity and they still complained.’

He added: ‘The whole thing has made me ill from the stress of repeatedly dealing with these people.

‘The final nails were not mechanical issues or the weather. It was the continual whining of a few people.

‘I do realise that 99 per cent of people do support us, but I can no longer cope with the one per cent.’

A spokesman for Kingsdale, the company that manages the flats, said residents had an issue with the noisy engines.

He said: ‘The complaints being made by residents relate to coach services generally and not specifically the Mendip Mule.

‘It’s about drivers who leave their engines running while they’re not moving. This is a long-running thing and there have been complaints about that practice.

‘In the case of the carnival the issues were related to the fact he parked his vehicles length-ways and was blocking the view, but that’s got nothing to do with his service.’

Pensioners ‘with vendetta against open top bus’ accused of vandalism

“DCC Leader throws his lot in with our business-led Local Enterprise Partnership in London

A far cry from when he led a protest against the 27% salary increase for the LEPs CEO last year and led calls for greater accountability and transparency for the quango, which has so far not materialised.

What’s happened since then one wonders?

“Devon County Council leader John Hart is in London today to press the case for devolution for Devon and Somerset with Ministers.

The two counties currently have an annual economy worth over £34 billion – more than Britain’s second city, Birmingham.

Mr Hart is being joined by other council leaders at the meeting with Jake Berry, the Minister responsible for devolution and coastal communities.

An agreement has been reached by the two county councils, the two unitaries, all the district councils, the Local Enterprise Partnership, the two national parks and NHS representatives – with a plan for devolution submitted to the Government. Mr Hart said he recognised that the Government was currently focusing attention on the Brexit negotiations but he wanted to get devolution back firmly on the agenda.

“I do not want our very strong bid for greater autonomy to get bogged down in Brexit,” he said. “In fact, one of the key planks of our devolution plan is how we can improve training and skills in the region and boost productivity. “That actually complements Brexit because it will help greatly strengthen the economy of our region and help boost trade. “At the moment training and skills comes from a fragmented budget delivered by a whole host of organisations.

“We’ll be telling the Minister: ‘Give us the power and we will create a better skilled workforce to enhance our whole economy’. “We can upskill our people, increase inward investment and provide the skilled workforce that employers need to prosper.” One of the ways this would be achieved is by streamling the way young people are provided with careers advice and education information and guidance in schools and colleges.

Mr Hart continued: “We have 17 local authorities working closely together on this plan with our other partners. “We have worked together as a team in producing the productivity plan and we have the united will to get on and succeed.

“We’re not holding out a begging bowl. The £30 million a year for 30 years that we could receive is a useful sum of money but ultimately we want the powers to get on and do what needs to be done so that the people of our region can get better jobs and have a better life in a thriving economy.”

Alongside the skills agenda, the partnership is also focused on improving road and rail links to the South West and creating more housing that is available to local people.

The South West currently receives only about 90 per cent of the public spending that goes into other regions and some areas, such as Torridge, Torbay and Newton Abbot, have some of the lowest earnings in the country.”

http://www.devonlive.com/news/devon-news/freedom-devon-delegation-goes-london-467776

You wait for one “no confidence vote” and two come along …

Currently:

Devon and Cornwall Police and Crime Commissioner Alison Hernandez is facing a third vote of no confidence.

The vote, at Devon County Council’s Cabinet meeting, follows comments she made on a BBC radio phone-in about armed civilians and terrorists.

The Conservative commissioner has survived the two previous confidence votes by Plymouth City Council and a police scrutiny panel.

Ms Hernandez has described the new motion is “naked politicking

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-england-devon-41161493

Tonight: Paul Diviani, EDDC (see post below)

Truly, there is something seriously wrong in our local Tory party, where the gene pool seems to have become exhausted!

And isn’t “naked politicking” what she did to get the job!

Tory councillor puts many Tory cats in front of a single Tory Diviani pidgeon!

Tonight sees the vote of no confidence in EDDC Leader Paul Diviani, who, with his former EDDC pal and DCC Councillor Sarah Randall-Johnson, sabotaged a last-ditch attempt to keep beds at Honiton and Seaton hospitals open.

Now EDDC Tory Councillor Mike Allen has written an extraordinary letter in today’s Midweek Herald claiming Diviani acted alone at DCC and, in fact, all other Tory councillors at EDDC backed the action to try to keep the beds open.

We know Diviani acted alone when he voted at DCC, as he was supposed to consult all the other councils in this part of Devon (8 councils in all) about his vote, which he admitted he did not do (see post yesterday on his censure for this).

So, tonight he faces a vote of “no confidence”.

What will Tory councillors do?

Diviani allegedly refused to follow their unanimous instruction about how to vote at DCC. Which councillors will vote to keep him in his job and why?

Could it be like the national Tory situation – where Mrs May stays in power only because her party has no-one better to offer so her bodge-jobbing is the best bodge-jobbing they can muster?

Or will we someone emerge from the shadows to oust the Leader – and, if so, will it be an improvement?

We note that Councillor Twiss voted against the motion that Diviani voted for at DCC (though maybe because he valued his Honiton DCC seat more than the community beds). Is he waiting in the wings?

Tonight will tell.

So, this is what you get when you destroy the NHS

PRESS RELEASE:

Shocking news is just emerging from the Midlands. Nottinghamshire is one of the first 8 ‘Accountable Care Systems’ (ACS) which the Sustainability and Transformation Partnerships (STPs) are morphing into.

We’ve just discovered that US Centene Corporation via Capita, has landed a contract with this ACS for upwards of £2.7m of our public money, to come and impose the discredited public/private healthcare system on the area. This involves a health management company running an area’s entire health service and hospital buildings, paid for with a mix of private and public money, with the Nottinghamshire ACS completely ignoring the fact that Ribera Salud system, which Centene half owns and is setting up here, is being investigated by police in Valencia for corruption,

Centene Corporation runs the publicly funded Medicaid programmes in 20 states and an Insurance business for low income people who have lost their Medicaid status. Remember Insurance companies are there for shareholders not for patients and do everything they can to avoid paying out. Is that what we want here?

If this is happening in Nottinghamshire, what is happening in the other 7 ACSs? Healthcare does not fit with the market.

We do not want to increase health inequalities.

The US has the worst healthcare in the developed world, exporting that here via Valencia is unacceptable!

The UK is the 6th richest counry in the world and CAN afford a proper health service.

Please help us STOP the STPs, by signing and sharing the petition.

https://you.38degrees.org.uk/petitions/stop-the-plans-to-dismantle-our-nhs